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PostSubject: Psychic Whispers Oracle   14/4/2012, 3:57 am

Is there anyone up for making an oracle?

I haven't decided how many cards, . But I think it should be something to do with the Forum and what it is about. Maybe?

Was thinking of going a little bit by the Lenormand.. But only as a a guide. I also like the animal Medicine deck too..
and the theme maybe old worldly grungy otherworldly look?
I have absolutely heaps of public domain images if anyone gets stuck for backgrounds, Images of most kinds...

If anyone knows of any websites that we can use please post it up..
It will be much appreciated.


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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 3:34 am

Well, as you know, from my email, I'm all for it! I think we should really consider doing this and researching what we should do. Perhaps even free art drawn by those of us interested in it. We could make it an oracle, not a tarot deck and also have it so that it is all about Psychic Whispers too.

If we do wrap it around PW, we definitely need a psychic card/circle card, Very Happy wouldn't truly be PW w/o THAT!!! And, I think a bear--of course, DB. like YOUR bear! something to ponder anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 3:37 am

oooh! just had anothe rthought. Remember when you shared an exercise with us all in the circle about going to our special room. We imagined a nice door--and we decorated it the way we wanted, etc.

How about adding a door to the deck. At first, I was thinking it could be something like the wheel of fortune card in tarot--as the wof is one of luck, sometimes it is good and sometimes it is bad, but you need to make of it what you can. Then, I thought, no.......a door is like the death card! One of transformation. instead of having the grim wreaper on the death card, it could be a door--because death after all is truly just a transformation.

Anyway, a few of my ideas..... drunken
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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 3:38 am

oooh! just had anothe rthought. Remember when you shared an exercise with us all in the circle about going to our special room. We imagined a nice door--and we decorated it the way we wanted, etc.

How about adding a door to the deck. At first, I was thinking it could be something like the wheel of fortune card in tarot--as the wof is one of luck, sometimes it is good and sometimes it is bad, but you need to make of it what you can. Then, I thought, no.......a door is like the death card! One of transformation. instead of having the grim wreaper on the death card, it could be a door--because death after all is truly just a transformation.

Anyway, a few of my ideas..... drunken
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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 11:03 am

LOL! Sound like you are as excited as me about this deck..
Definitely an Oracle deck CN..
And definitely about Psychic Whispers..
Our experiences as Mediums and Psychics..
Great Idea about adding the circles.
We could also add a few totem animals..
Of course the Bear has to be there LOL!!
we could make it up in a PDF file..
and have it as a free download for members once we are finished.

What do you think about using the Lenormand.. The Animal Medicine cards..
and maybe one more as our basic guides I do like the druid plant and animal oracles as well.. maybe we could steer our ways to them.. Of course we cant get away from using Tarot as well, even though its an oracle..

How many cards do you think we should use?
and also come up with some good spreads for it.. ( but that can come later)


K what do you think about coming up with a few key images and words?

Like

Image ~ Meaning
Spirit ~ "Transformation" or could even be "cycle of life" Or even "separation"

Along those lines?




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PostSubject: Just playing with some key images!!   15/4/2012, 12:14 pm

Images we could use.

Spirit ( apparition)
Circle of friends (I have great stone thing that would be great for that..)
Card reader, Palm reader.
Pendulum
Ouija
books
cards
Bear
Eagle
Faerie
children, like that little kid in (Sixth sense) " i see dead people" LOL!! as most of us as mediums had it since childhood.

Maybe we could use some movies?
Moon,
Sun
All the elements
chakra
Reiki
Crystals
herbs
Owl
cats
Dog
hawk

Lavendar
Rosemary..

I love Druidry Runes.. so maybe Awen Which means to reach the state of Awe. ( amazement, peace etc)

Music.. ( which is a major part of my own spirituality)

Nature!! definitely nature as in Trees' as i have mention my other internet name is also Tree Spirit..

candles

I love the image of J Waterhouse, the Circle.
It is in the public domain.. so we could use that too.. and use it as the Wheel.

Do you think we should have images of people to represent some of the court cards?
Like Lenormand has a Cavalier, a man and a woman.

We could also use some of the more significant playing cards too.

definitely have to have a Joker, Fool card.

maybe we could also have a shaman.. from four corners of the earth..
Native American Indian, Celtic, Japanese, and Dalai Lama.
What do you think?
They could be the Kings and or Queens!!

Ghandi is also another mentor LOL!!

strength card is my favourite card.. so have have a Strength image.

Whats your favourite Tarot?



Gosh a thousand ideas going through my head!!



This is the waterhouse that is public domain its called "The Magic Circle"..

http://www.jwwaterhouse.com/paintings/images/waterhouse_the_magic_circle.jpg



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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 12:20 pm

Black panther gotta be in it too..


say we start off with 50 cards..

Look at the cycle of life.. and build around that..

the Tarot have the fools path they build upon, the runes have the 13 stages..

Cant think what others deck are built upon, but i am sure we have enough experience between us that we can come up with some good cards that will work well together.


I have a condensed Tarot.. i could have a look at that..

also do you read with reversals?
Looking at maybe keeping away from them?




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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 12:53 pm

K here is the condensed Tarot I did years ago..
Here are the key words for some of those cards..
which are quite similar to Lenormand too.. which is cool..
A mix of Tarot thrown in LOL!!

One for each, male and female.! so 8 cards in all!!
Female ~ Earth Energy ~ Taurus ~ Virgo ~ Capricorn ~Practical.
Male ~Air Energy~Aquarius ~ Libra ~ Gemini ~ Intellect.
Female ~ Fire Energy ~ Leo ~ Aries ~ Sagittarius ~ Action
Male ~ Water Energy ~ Pisces ~ Cancer ~ Scorpio ~ Emotion.


9.Greed, Jealousy or selfishness
10.Sincerity, Loyalty, Good Friendship ( Dog )
11.Parties, Celebrations or Good times ( like 3 of cups)
12.Rejection, loneliness or anxiety
13. Watch your health
14. Stress ( 9 of swords)
15. Birth New Start, Awakening
16. Ending or completion
17. Wishes or dreams come true
18.Deception or dishonesty
19. Theft shock or neglect
20. Proposal, Gift or reward
21. Failure, Depression or repression
22. Success, Gain, Achievement
23. Betrayal or unfaithfulness
24. Involvement or passion

25. Changes, New Opportunities, Direction
26. Stability or Career, Advancement
27. Temptation, Danger, or treachery
28. Official Business or legal Matters
29 Happy conclusions, sincerity or Love
30. Message or Phone Calls
31. Misery, Hardship or fatigue
32. Happiness, excitement or good luck
33. Divorce, disagreement or indifference
34. Marriage, Union or Partnership
35. Overseas travel or Long journey
36. Holidays, Outings, or invitations
37. Financial rewards or wealth
38. Poverty or overspending
39. Yes Positive
40. No Negative.

There you go.. what do you think.. this deck works really well.
Maybe we could add a couple of Major meanings in there too..
41. Like Journey of the fool.. Taking chances..
Strength cards meaning Strength and also complete cutting of ties.
we could also add the more spiritual meaning to these too..

Like say for instance..
Overseas travel or Long journey could mean Spiritual journey.
Instead of financial rewards and wealth we could change that to rewards of hard work.. in a spiritual nature.
Poverty and overspending could also mean overreaching.. too eager.

We need 9 more cards to make our 50.

Illusions ( Magician )
Introspection, Learning, study etc.. (Bear and Hermit)
Spirit world ( Black Panther with high priestess? )
Owl ( Wisdom )
Eagle ( Great spirit of all religions.)
State of Awe.
Cats ( familiars)

Loads of ideas floating as you can see.




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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 3:01 pm

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LOL! Sound like you are as excited as me about this deck..
Definitely an Oracle deck CN..
And definitely about Psychic Whispers..
Our experiences as Mediums and Psychics..
Great Idea about adding the circles.
We could also add a few totem animals..
Of course the Bear has to be there LOL!!
we could make it up in a PDF file..
and have it as a free download for members once we are finished.

yes, I am excited. Laughing I've always thought about making my own deck one day-but have not gotten far with that--so this is getting me moving. lighting the fire under my butt so to speak! sunny

Yes, I'd love to have a few totem animals in there. My main totem is the black panther/jaguar. I'd love to have him there! I think animals that are widely accepted such as owl would also be good--to stand for wisdom. Perhaps eagle as well, those sort of animals are all good possibilities.

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What do you think about using the Lenormand.. The Animal Medicine cards..
and maybe one more as our basic guides I do like the druid plant and animal oracles as well.. maybe we could steer our ways to them.. Of course we cant get away from using Tarot as well, even though its an oracle..
I am not familiar with the Animal Medicine cards, so I can't say anything on that. However, I do like the idea of the Lenormand. I also like the idea that we use the one idea of the Lenormand and reflect it back to a general deck of playing cards. This way, even though you may have it available as a PDF file for people, they can also buy a standard deck of playing cards and attach our idea to that. If we were to 'sell' this idea though, then we may not want to do that. But, it would also be widely available then to people at a price that anyone could afford. It would just depend on whether or not we want to sell this idea.

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How many cards do you think we should use?
and also come up with some good spreads for it.. ( but that can come later)
unsure. Lenormand has only what, 36 cards? I go to a psychic card reader, who uses playing cards, but she only uses a portion of the deck, perhaps about 36--I cannot recall how many.

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K what do you think about coming up with a few key images and words?

Like

Image ~ Meaning
Spirit ~ "Transformation" or could even be "cycle of life" Or even "separation"

Along those lines?


Yes, I like coming up with some key images and words to go with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 3:08 pm

Dancing Bear wrote:
Images we could use.

Spirit ( apparition)
Circle of friends (I have great stone thing that would be great for that..)
Card reader, Palm reader.
Pendulum
Ouija
books
cards
Bear
Eagle
Faerie
children, like that little kid in (Sixth sense) " i see dead people" LOL!! as most of us as mediums had it since childhood.

sounds good so far.

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Maybe we could use some movies?
Moon,
Sun
All the elements
chakra
Reiki
Crystals
herbs
Owl
cats
Dog
hawk

Lavendar
Rosemary..
don't forget auras too! those would be quite important I think. perhaps also Kundalini/Energy. I always just see Kundalini as a snake in my minds eye. Perhaps using the snake as such? Not sure really--will have to really investigate that idea.

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I love Druidry Runes.. so maybe Awen Which means to reach the state of Awe. ( amazement, peace etc)

Music.. ( which is a major part of my own spirituality)

Nature!! definitely nature as in Trees' as i have mention my other internet name is also Tree Spirit..

candles

I love the image of J Waterhouse, the Circle.
It is in the public domain.. so we could use that too.. and use it as the Wheel.

Do you think we should have images of people to represent some of the court cards?
Like Lenormand has a Cavalier, a man and a woman.
yes, this all sounds great! and especially yes to images of people for court cards. I'd say famous people, save the fact that this could open us up to problems with actually sharing this deck. We'll have to think about that. Perhaps us people who are interested in developing this deck? Smile

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We could also use some of the more significant playing cards too.

definitely have to have a Joker, Fool card.

maybe we could also have a shaman.. from four corners of the earth..
Native American Indian, Celtic, Japanese, and Dalai Lama.
What do you think?
They could be the Kings and or Queens!!
oooh, yes! I do like this idea! cheers

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Ghandi is also another mentor LOL!!

strength card is my favourite card.. so have have a Strength image.

Whats your favourite Tarot?
Ghandi is a definite too! Perhaps also Mother Theresa? strength is a great card, as is the hermit, I think. sheesh, our deck may end up having hundreds of cards at this point! Laughing

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Gosh a thousand ideas going through my head!!
yes! me too!!! bounce

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This is the waterhouse that is public domain its called "The Magic Circle"..

http://www.jwwaterhouse.com/paintings/images/waterhouse_the_magic_circle.jpg


off to check that site out.................

back! yes, I love that!!! wonderful! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 3:11 pm

Dancing Bear wrote:
Black panther gotta be in it too..


say we start off with 50 cards..

Look at the cycle of life.. and build around that..

the Tarot have the fools path they build upon, the runes have the 13 stages..

Cant think what others deck are built upon, but i am sure we have enough experience between us that we can come up with some good cards that will work well together.


I have a condensed Tarot.. i could have a look at that..
yes, 50 cards is a good start, and we can always change that if need be. This is all the developmental stages, we can always change things as time goes on.

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also do you read with reversals?
Yes, I do.

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Looking at maybe keeping away from them?



I would agree. At this point anyway. Perhaps after we work on this one and get it rolling, we'll be able to do a 2nd deck then and that could have reversals! geek
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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 4:02 pm

Dancing Bear wrote:
K here is the condensed Tarot I did years ago..
Here are the key words for some of those cards..
which are quite similar to Lenormand too.. which is cool..
A mix of Tarot thrown in LOL!!

One for each, male and female.! so 8 cards in all!!
Female ~ Earth Energy ~ Taurus ~ Virgo ~ Capricorn ~Practical.
Male ~Air Energy~Aquarius ~ Libra ~ Gemini ~ Intellect.
Female ~ Fire Energy ~ Leo ~ Aries ~ Sagittarius ~ Action
Male ~ Water Energy ~ Pisces ~ Cancer ~ Scorpio ~ Emotion.

Okay, so the above would represent the court cards then?

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9.Greed, Jealousy or selfishness
10.Sincerity, Loyalty, Good Friendship ( Dog )
11.Parties, Celebrations or Good times ( like 3 of cups)
12.Rejection, loneliness or anxiety
13. Watch your health
14. Stress ( 9 of swords)
15. Birth New Start, Awakening
16. Ending or completion
17. Wishes or dreams come true
18.Deception or dishonesty
19. Theft shock or neglect
20. Proposal, Gift or reward
21. Failure, Depression or repression
22. Success, Gain, Achievement
23. Betrayal or unfaithfulness
24. Involvement or passion

25. Changes, New Opportunities, Direction
26. Stability or Career, Advancement
27. Temptation, Danger, or treachery
28. Official Business or legal Matters
29 Happy conclusions, sincerity or Love
30. Message or Phone Calls
31. Misery, Hardship or fatigue
32. Happiness, excitement or good luck
33. Divorce, disagreement or indifference
34. Marriage, Union or Partnership
35. Overseas travel or Long journey
36. Holidays, Outings, or invitations
37. Financial rewards or wealth
38. Poverty or overspending
39. Yes Positive
40. No Negative.

There you go.. what do you think.. this deck works really well.
Maybe we could add a couple of Major meanings in there too..
Yes, I like this. I need to think on it a bit more though, to see if it covers everything we should consider? But, so far, I do like this. Is this something you already made yourself and use? or is this all you've thought up for this project we are embarking on?

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41. Like Journey of the fool.. Taking chances..
Strength cards meaning Strength and also complete cutting of ties.
we could also add the more spiritual meaning to these too..

Like say for instance..
Overseas travel or Long journey could mean Spiritual journey.
Instead of financial rewards and wealth we could change that to rewards of hard work.. in a spiritual nature.
Poverty and overspending could also mean overreaching.. too eager.

We need 9 more cards to make our 50.

Illusions ( Magician )
Introspection, Learning, study etc.. (Bear and Hermit)
Spirit world ( Black Panther with high priestess? )
Owl ( Wisdom )
Eagle ( Great spirit of all religions.)
State of Awe.
Cats ( familiars)

Loads of ideas floating as you can see.

yes, I like this, however, I see the magician as more then just illusions. For instance, I have to relate this story of the magician card to explain how I see this card.

The magician card ALWAYS comes up for my husband. He is, a very fortunate and lucky man, I swear! So now, whenever the magician card shows up in a reading I am doing, I cannot help but to relate the things I see in the magician to him. He is always able to use his strengths to make things happen for him/us. He has the skills and the know how to get things done and to get things we seem to need. Its even a bit uncanny, really--but its true, he seems to always land on his feet, (like a cat) and he also seems to always be in the right place at the right time!

As for the HP, yes! black panther is very good to be with this card. Very Happy I love the HP card, one of my favorites in the tarot deck. I aspire to become like her. Perhaps this is my goal--and why I have the black panther as my animal? Oh, I can only hope for that!

You know, for the really powrful cards, like Magician, HP, ect. perhaps a totem animal should also be included somehow with them--so that it can show what the card is meaning? combine both the human and the animal together? what do you think of that?

I also like the Bear w/the hermit. Are you familiar with the man "Padre Pio"? He always makes me think of the hermit. Google him and read up on him. He was a famous healer and mystic. Very interesting man, and yet not one easy to know. I've read up on him extensively, and he still kind of eludes me, frightens me, and yet calms me too. Everything I feel a hermit would be. Perhaps this is why I see him as the hermit card in tarot. I can also see how Bear would fit well here.

I've got to really think more on this too. You've gotten alot of thought down here, let me dwell upon it a bit myself and get back to you here on it.

I do hope more will jump in on this also. This is very exciting!

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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   15/4/2012, 5:47 pm

DB! it JUST hit me! I have a PERFECT picture that we should consider. I am on my way out the door to exerrcise now, but I will be looking for this picture when I get home that the hubby took awhile back on one of our kayaking adventures. it is of a tree--an old tree and the roots going into the waters...... it is so mysterious and beautiful! I always said, and others too, that it looks like a fairy tree! Not sure where/how to use it, but I'll share it here later!

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PostSubject: Re: Psychic Whispers Oracle   16/4/2012, 5:15 am

I love your idea about adding a Power animal to the cards with people in it..

Yes i am familiar with Padre Pio.. I agree interesting man..


I am Hermit and Bear Together: I relate to both: in a big way
Hermit reminds me of me.


I agree Magician is much more than illusions..

and yes yes yes about the photo.. I love Tree images.. I could add a fairy in the photograph.
I also have a tree image i took while travelling up further north on dirt tracks.. this tree was so huge I had to sit on the ground and take the picture looking up the tree to fit it in the picture... So absolutely we can use some tree images.. we can put meaning to them later LOL!!!


The list of meanings.. I made a condensed Tarot deck many years ago.. and Still use it.. It works a treat. the cards blend well together..
But I realise that not all are going to blend well with this deck as it is more oracle.. than Tarot. Its just a guide..

I don't think you need to be familiar with the Animal Medicine deck.. all you need to be familiar with is the meanings and medicine/ counsel animals bring. And that I know you are familiar with animals and their part they play in our spiritual growth.

I do think if you are one to work with reversals, you will find a way to work with this deck using reversals too..

I don't use reversals myself.. but if a card somehow happens to come out upside down I will read it as such.

Sounds like we are getting our creative sides working here..
Off to go do some more Painting .. then I will be back later with more ideas i have come up with throughout the day LOL!!






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