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PostSubject: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   20/8/2012, 6:42 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/legitimate-rape-and-todd-akins-myths/2012/08/20/f8c048b4-ea76-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_blog.html

this idiot Elephant claims there's such a thing as legitimate rape! Mad

claims doctors told him there was....and says women's bodies have a way to
stop a product of rape!?!
were they witch doctors? Rolling Eyes


sure he's backtracking, but his words are out there...probably
influencing people into thinking they are true...

burns my arse, that the Elephants are against ALL abortions....
even with rape, incest, and if mom and the baby are in trouble...
there's even a bill floating state to state called
"let the woman die"!!!
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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   21/8/2012, 12:30 am

Wow, Amethyst...that is so terrible! I can't even answer cohesively because it brings back waaaay too many terrible memories.

- all I can say is that I was once beaten, raped and left for dead, and I would not wish that on my worst enemy. And thank all the Gods that the docs "vacuumed" me afterwards (within an hour), and gave me the "morning after" pill. I cannot even imagine how I would have felt if I had gotten preggers. It was bad enough as it was.
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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   21/8/2012, 1:27 am

OMG...Lotus! That would be horrible! You are such a kind person with a warm heart, very amazing your healing! I love you Hubby was just telling me about this and how he is catching all kinds of trouble for it! Twisted Evil for sure!
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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   24/8/2012, 12:46 pm

There was an article the other day on the internet.. as you all know i am a huge voice for injustice to children, women and animals and all the innocent..
And I am hearing you AM.. Iran is trying to legalise marriage to children under 10.. Paedophilia made legal through religion!! Sick morons!!

and another where a woman found out she was pregnant and had Leukaemia and due to abortion laws, which includes women who are raped , they have to go through with the pregnancy..
Needless to say the poor young girl died waiting for doctors and red tape to make up their minds!!


Rape of any kind no matter how grey they want to make it.. is Rape.. it is intercourse WITHOUT consent!! whether forcefully or not!
Some women are too frightened to fight!
These doctors who are endorsing it need to be stricken off the GP lists..
Bastards!! How dare they even imply there is a Legitimated Rape and a woman's body stops the product of Rape!! I would like the Universal lessons to come around and see if they will say that after they are Raped! Ignorant Morons!!

Like a saying I came across the other day..



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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   28/8/2012, 4:58 am

Makes me wonder if the ruling women in this lovely world of ours were to make it a law that men are required to have their testicles surgically removed if they ever committed one of these and possibly other good rules/laws how these men would react.

Of course, the surgery should also be performed by a woman doctor and the men selected are to be selected by a board of women as well.

1. men who have committed any crime.
2. men who are determined to have anger issues
3. men who are known drug abusers/including alcohol
4. men who are negligent in their child support and/or spousal support
5. men whose wives are no longer wanting anymore children
6. any man not deemed suitable for fatherhood or good husband material
7. men who suffer from a health issue that may be passed on to sex partner and/or child.
8. any man known to cheat on his wife
9. any man who has physically, emotionally or mentally abused his wife or child.
10. ALL priests in the Catholic Church---(my personal favorite law here, Laughing )

Some other men I can think of who SHOULD be on this list would be:

1. Mel Gibson
2. Mike Tyson
3. Alec Baldwin
4. Kenneth Clarke
5. Todd Akin
6. And especially ANY man who has of course committed rape (which would go under law #1 listed above.

Laughing What do YOU all think? Would this go over well? It sure as hell would keep men in line, I think....

ahhh, a woman's world! what a good world it would be then, eh?

cheers

Can anyone think of any other men to put on this list???
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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   28/8/2012, 11:42 pm

Suspect scratch
geesh....how did this thread go so off kilter?

just drawing more attention to their collective agenda,
how there is a War on Women, and it's not by President Obama....
reasons to stop the Elephants before it's too late...

if they win in november, our world will have no planned parenthood...
no abortions whatsoever...no birth control pills...no invitro....
no prescreening for anyone as far as breast cancer,std's, pregnancy
tests and wellness visits, no PAP smears or vacines for HPV,
etc...
ever hear the stories about coathangers?
teens that get themselves stuck with a mouth to fed or an std?
about women getting sick cuz they can't afford even checkups?
about women not getting to see doctors for their unborn babies?

they cut all that, plus food stamps and regular health care,etc...

that's what we face if they take over more then they have...
and in our state senates and houses, we have to 'dethrone' them...

they hate Obama so much, they vote down evey piece of legislation...
even if they were the ones who drew them up...
on the day our president took the Oath...they had a secret meeting to
declare they would not give him an inch...
(methinks they throught he was a wimp) not even to mention,
their veiled rascism towards him, with always going back to his birth certificate
and his religion....even though he was born in Hawaii, and is a christian...they
shoot down every proof, and say he's kenyan and muslim....



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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   30/8/2012, 2:55 am

WOW!! AM It sounds as if those elephant party get in America will see the Dark Ages!

All threads go off kilter in this forum AM LOL!! As most conversations lead from one subject to another.

But this Elephant Party should not even be entertained to even run for presidency?
Who backs this party? Who funds it to run?

America Use to be the number 1 in the world it looks like it is slipping way behind.
Americans vote is not only just for their own country it is for the entire Western World. Our country has a lot of American influence.


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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   30/8/2012, 6:42 pm

this Elephant party USE to be the party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, & FDR....
and to some extent Reagan...sadly it has evolved and contorted so much, i don't recognize it.....
this Tea Party group Like a Star @ heaven and the philosophy of Ayn Rand (& the Klan,methinks) have taken over their minds and hearts...they're rich upper class or middleclass people with no idea how to help their 'underlings', even though they say they will help....the message is based on lies about Obama's policies and his first term 'foul-ups',with thinly disguised racial undertones...

on top of that...to prove there's no war on women...they drag their wives and their aging moms on the campaign trail....and get they to lie, or they decieve them about Obama and the issues...

then they got people like Todd Aken, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin,Rush limburger, and those idiots at Fox news, espousing their crapola,too...

they really have no plan except the 'Ryan Plan'...which they push aside from speaking about, to crap on the President...amazes me how many people are drinking their koolaid...

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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   31/8/2012, 11:54 am

Scary isnt it how many many people think AM!
Sometimes its frightening, I often wonder if i am the only one that sees through lies and hogwash..
I know I am not though, but it does seem like banging head against a brick wall with no hope.
I do hope they dont get in for everyones sake..
You will end up like friggin China!! Dictated to and suppressed, while the rich get richer and the poor and middle class are forgotten about or used to help get the rich richer. with absolutely no benefits whatsoever.

This party truly have a warped sense of reality!


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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   1/9/2012, 1:02 am

not all republicans or democrats for that matter have a bad sense of reality. I don't want to get into a political debate here, but we do have to be careful of what we say over all, IMHO.

Not everyone in either party is 100% great or 100% bad. I also get a bit upset with the tea party group, and it is sad to say this, but they ain't got a snowballs chance in hell to get elected. They do know this. They just hope to take some votes away from the two parties who do have the chance...........

that said, I'm not really keen on President Obama.................
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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   1/9/2012, 7:15 pm

the teaparty is a big part of the GOP, albeit the right-side of it...
re-read the ryan plan and see if that kinda world would be better...

this new GOP has morphed into something i don't recognise anymore,
along with me, there are so many others that think the same way, and are scared if they get any more control than they have already....

little or no taxes for the rich....their views on abortion are scary enuff...
without planned parenthood, more women sick or dying,pregnant, jobless, maybe homeless...people will be going hungry, with slashes to the food stamp program...schools will all have to be charter or charter-like, they want to put an end to public ed...seniors with have to put up the money for insurance, that voucher ain't worth the paper is printed on and the prescription donuthole will come back....so much other issues that will screw us up as a country....the middle class will cease to exist in short order....
affraid
do you want a ruling party that lies baldfaced to you, smiles,
and pats ya on the head 'don't worry,be happy'....

or one that helps you have a healthy economically normal life?


we do have it better, and it will get even better when Obama stays....
8 years of Elephants' crapola he had and has to clean up...and
not to mention, he has to fight tooth and nail to get things done in congress...
as a country, and as his employers, we have to have patience...he doesn't have a magic wand to change things in a blink...

remember the secret meeting the GOP had on the very day he took the Oath of Office....they vowed to never give him an inch...even with the very same bills they wrote up and sponsored, they'd voted them down.....
Then they turn around and say he's a 'do-nothing' president?? Rolling Eyes

not to mention, lies and backward thinking all thru their Convention...
which i dubbed FibFest....5 lies in Ryan's speech alone!
don't even get me started on Eastwood and that empty chair Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   3/9/2012, 10:33 am

And why dont you want to get into a political debate here CelticNoodle LOL!! jocolor

I dont know enough of American Politics to even begin..
But i do want to stick by my comment of warped sense of reality.. when this party can agree that there is a " Legitimate type of Rape" and Womens bodies have a way of nullifying rape into just sexual intercourse ..So therefore any woman raped it becomes not rape at all.. scratch To think like that, is to me warped and scary! pale

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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   4/9/2012, 11:46 pm

DB, first of all, it was NOT Mitt Romney who said anything about rape is not always 'legal rape'. He also is not against abortion. It is being portrayed that Mr. Romney is responsible for this and it was NOT him who said it. It was actually Todd Akin who said it.

Mr. Romney is not responsible for what he says, anymore then President Obama is responsible for the ignorant remarks that ex-President Bill Clinton made over the years since Mr. Obama began to run for the Democratic ticket for the office of President.

In fact, there is also proof that economy is actually WORSE since Obama took office. I'm not saying that he is at fault here either--becuase when you get right down to it, it's not just the President of the US who puts things into action. Its a whole group of people--and it was set up this way to ensure that just one person is NOT in total control of it all.

however, the fact remains that unemployment has gone up, home values have fallen, and gas prices are also up. Many people are much worse off since President Obama was elected. Health insurance has increased dramatically since he took office as well. I sometimes volunteer at a food shelf and we also donate food and money a lot there. There is an increase in the amount of people who come for help here. In fact, there are more people living in poverty now then before he took office.

Is this all his fault? solely his fault? I don't know--BUT! it did happen when HE took office.

Also, when Mitt Romney was Governor of MA, he did do alot to turn around MA and make things better there.

Sure, there is going to be good and bad with EVERY person. that is always true, but quite frankly, I do personally think that Mitt Romney is going to be much better in the role of President then President Obama is or will be for another 4yrs. I feel that between the two, Mr. Romney comes to the stand with more experience to get the job done. That is just my thoughts, and I will not badger and push my ideas on others - especially on a site that was designed for the paranormal.

I really don't like to get into politics too much online - like this, because I feel this place should really keep to what it was designed for in the first place--tarot and the paranomral, psychics, mediums, and the like. Trying to discuss politics online like this can lead to heated arguments and things can turn ugly. I don't want PW to turn ugly--that is one thing I dislike about AT. But, this is my opinion and you own the site, DB, so if you all want to continue on, it's really none of my business. You asked and I'm just stating my feelings about it. I'd just like to advise everyone that BEFORE they begin to argue against the two sides, to make sure they are well and properly informed of what is what.
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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   5/9/2012, 9:40 pm

i'd advise anyone who believes romney would be a greater choice, to read CAREFULLY the Ryan Bill...Ryan's big hero was Ayn Rand, and he based this crapola on her philosophy...the Elephants have blocked and fillibustered Obama's every move in congress from the day he took the Oath...
they all follow the platform based on this stupid plan that would put womankind back in the dark ages and we would have a caste system...the middle class wouls cease to exist...lord knows what will happen to the poor now, and the poor they will create later...perish the thought they get in the white house...


look at the women's issues, seniors' issues, etc...
everyone will get screwed for 4 years.....
more illnesses and death, hungry and homeless people,
i can't see anyone favor of that!


listen to MSNBC in the evenings....they tell the the truth, they are notpartisan, even tho people say they are...Fox news is totally right wing,
and don't tell the truth...watch how they cover the DNC convention...important dems talk, they show it in small screen sound down, and show commercials and gop ads normal screen and sound....all the oother channels covering the convention, do not do that....

just follow St.Paul's admonition...test all things, prove all things...
that's what the good Press does...
so unlike the GOP, they spread falsehoods as if they were the truth, even when called on them, to which they backtrack on their very words....

i.e., the plant at janesville OHio...cutting welfare to work...
proven lies, yet they still spread them....
how anyone could be for that?????
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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   5/9/2012, 9:44 pm

and another thing...the whole GOP is against ALL abortions ...

no matter what happen....or what happens....

rape, incest, something wrong with the baby or mom, etc...

with 'let the woman die laws and personhood laws...
woman and their doctors will die or get thrown in jail...
and prisons are crowded already...or are more prisons in their infrustructure program???

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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   5/9/2012, 11:21 pm

AM you and I will just have to realize we are going to differ on our political opinions. Right now, since President Obama has been in office, I SEE WITH MY OWN TWO EYES MORE PEOPLE OUT OF WORK AND LIVING IN THE POVERTY LEVEL.

I honestly think that Romney would make a better President the Obama and nothing you spit out here in these threads will change my mind. I'm not going to even try to change yours. You seem like the type that will only hear and believe what you want and quite frankly I think a lot of what you say is wrong. I'm sorry, don't mean to upset you or offend you, but you started this thread and I'm putting down my own opinions.

OBAMA NEEDS TO BE BOOTED OUT OF OFFICE AND MR. ROMNEY PUT INTO OFFICE!!!
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PostSubject: Re: one needs to ask 'what is legitimate rape?   6/9/2012, 9:18 pm

if you choose to drink the republicans' koolaid...fine...

you did not offend me...

i just can't see electing someone who LIES to the public like they do...

like the 'welfare to work ' lie...if obama cut it in any way...i would know about...i'm on it!
i see good changes now and to come even in medical assistance...

and what is romney hiding with those tax files??
his own father released 12 years...romney gives us barely 2 years..

both men do not live up to their own faiths tenets...
obama did and does his whole career in pulbic service...

women are going to be very hurt by the ryan plan....
that alone should be scary....

when you elect someone, you have to take the whole person's plan
into consideration...not bits and pieces...


look what happen to our big surplus and great economy etc with clinton...bush takes office and the economy and everything tanks...8 years of that, obama has had to straighten out, and he is...just that some people can't see that....
what do you want him to do? use a magic wand?

NOT TO MENTION the republicans have indeed blocked everything that would help out faster in congress...they vowed that the day he took Office...

did you watch the conventions?
notice the GOP had really no new ideas and did not concentrate on their plans...it was mostly attacks on Obama....
the Dems on the other hand spoke well about the future and refrained from juvenile attacks....had good stories of real people affected by both parties...
including the people romney canned from Bain's companies...people whose towns came back from the brink becuz of the auto bailouts...a young mom whose daughter when at the age of 5 woulda run out of health care funds if it weren't for obamacare...
there's many other stories out there like that...just cuz it is not qite happening in your corner of the country, does not mean it won't...this is a big country, a lot of elephant crap has to be cleared up yet...
could you do it any faster?

it irks me that any woman would be for those 2....republican women remind me of the steford wives....
how do they propose to deal with the doctors and women who 'commit' a crime of abortion as far as money for more jails etc? they are so crowded now with drug dealers and their ilk....that's the personhood act's reality....

as a woman, wouldn't you want the freedom to choose what's best for your own body and family?? they would outlaw the pill...something that helps others with gyn problems not just for b.c....
and that 'let the woman die' act is totally stupid for lack of civil words.....
a woman's health issues should be between her doctor and herself, not the government....
they want to abolish Planned Parenthood.....would you want women to get sick and die cuz they can't afford pre-screenings for cancer and diabetes, and etc??
i get those type of mammagrams, free every year....do you know how much med testing costs???

we tried that damn trickledown econ before...everytime the elephants get control...it has never worked...
giving the wealthy tax breaks and the middle class and poor more taxes is
beyond stupid...
voting rights are being violated in nearly every state....LBJ is rolling in his grave...it's a scheme dreamed up to get only republicans and right-leaning indies to vote...and to keep blacks, seniors, disabled,the poor, etc from the polls...
voting is sacred opportunity to speak your mind about who's running and the issues....if only the 'right' gets into vote, all hell will break lose....






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